How did you cut the V slot in the headstock??
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| Author: | douglas ingram [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Making some old fashioned guitars |
So as not to hijack another thread, I though that it would be cool to see some of the old fashioned guitars that we've been working on. I'm working on some SE117's and a Panormo, and Mike Collins is working on a Lacote and an old Martin. Mike, I want to see what you've been up to! Here are mine. WRC tops and Ash bodies. |
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| Author: | David LaPlante [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
Taking a break from classicals, I did a restoration on an 1840s Martin and Coupa guitar. The guitar had been "repaired" by grafting on the slotted peg head from another guitar. Here is the remaining "dart" once the unoriginal head was taken off. You can see the remains of the original modified bridal joint and how the previous "restorer" cut through it. Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 003.jpg Measuring the width of the dart at the level of the new peg head. Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 002.jpg And the angle of the rear face of the replacement Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 004.jpg Checking the template Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 005.jpg Making the initial cuts Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 007.jpg Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 008.jpg Visible are the rosewood "bushings" set into the mahogany of the head (this guitar has a Cuban mahogany neck in contrast to Spanish cedar which was used on later Martins) as was the case on 19th century martins which used friction pegs Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 010.jpg Detail of the recess Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 012.jpg
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| Author: | David LaPlante [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
Here is the peghead showing the Brazilian rosewood head veneer, pattern (developed from another 1840s example) and the original nickel silver nut. Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 013.jpg Final fitting Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 014.jpg Clamping and glueing with fish glue Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 019.jpg Attachment: Martin&CoupaRestoration 021.jpg After careful shaping, sanding, coloring and french polish I fitted a set of reproduction 19th century Martin style pegs which were made by UK luthier Bruce Brook to my specs. Attachment: MartinpegsBrook 001.jpg In addition I made and fitted a proper 1840s style Martin tie bridge: The completed guitar: Attachment: Martin and Coupa 001.jpg Attachment: Martin and Coupa 002.jpg
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| Author: | Frei [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
How did you cut the V slot in the headstock??
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| Author: | David LaPlante [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
With the knives shown and a small chisel. Here are some details of the Headstock: Attachment: MartinandCoupaRestoration 002.jpg Attachment: MartinandCoupaRestoration 003.jpg As well as the replicated bridge: Attachment: MartinandCoupaRestoration 001.jpg www.guitarsbydavidlaplante.com |
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| Author: | George L [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
Douglas -- That's a nice trio you have there and I love the rosettes. Those old style guitars are wonderful. David -- Wow! Beautiful work. That's one lucky guitar to have found its way to your shop after all these years. Well done. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
Nice looking guitars! Hi David, Since you were making a new peghead why didn't you take it back to the modified bridle joint? |
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| Author: | David LaPlante [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
The previous "restorer" had not only cut the original peghead (or the remains thereof) off along the edges of the "dart", but had reduced the size of the "dart" to the point where re-establishing the original bridle joint configuration would not have left much wood at all. I decided to leave what remained alone and to do a mortised "V" joint (a la' Hauser). It would be the strongest joint choice and would restore as much of the original look as could be done with what was left. |
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| Author: | Frei [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
Can you post some soundclips? |
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| Author: | douglas ingram [ Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
David, I'm really impressed by the museum grade work that you're doing on that old Martin. But there's no surprise in that. Looks like a fascinating guitar, can you tell us more? |
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| Author: | BruceHerrmann [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Making some old fashioned guitars |
David, I would expect nothing less than the highest quality from your shop. David is a historian as well as an artisan, just wish I lived closer to learn as much as possible from him. Great work David. Nice to see old traditions being preserved. And there are many others here who do the same, my hat's off to all of you. Bruce |
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