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Author:  000lover [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Gutiar Plans from Pilgrims Projects
http://www.pilgrimsprojects.biz/guitar.html

These say they are "similar to martin". Does anyone have any experience with these plans? Are they fairly accurate to martin's plan?

Thanks

MATTHEW
Author:  Hesh [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:06 pm ]
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Matthew buddy IMHO the OM plan is a bit over braced. This is the Antes plan that LMI offers too and I built one of these exactly to the plan. Result = and over braced OM.

I don't know if the OM plan is exactly what Martin does but I doubt it. John Hall (Blues Creek - link above) would be a very good one to ask.
Author:  Allen McFarlen [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:34 am ]
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I've bought a bunch of their plans. All have been by Scott Antes. It doesn't worry me about the bracing, as I do my own thing with it. I just want the plan for the body shape and to give me an idea of what is happening inside. They've got great service, and the price as far as I can see is about the best I've found on plans.
Author:  Ken C [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:40 am ]
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I just finished a Scott Antes OM. Well...finished building. I need to pore fill, final sand, and apply finish yet. I found the top bracing to be a little excessive as well so I skinnied all the bracing by 1/16". My prior build was a Martin OM, and it did not have the heavy bracing shown on the Antes plan.

Ken
Author:  BruceHerrmann [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:33 pm ]
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Don't have my OM bracing measurements handy but will get them. For comparison, here's John Arnold's measurements
of a 1935 D-18, they might be helpful.

All measurements are in inches.
X-brace angle is 97.5 degrees.
Tone bar spacing (C to C) is 1 7/16 @ X-braces, 1 3/8 @ kerfing.
X-braces and tone bars are 0.325 wide.
Bass X minimum = 0.320
Bass X peak = 0.435, 6 5/16 from center of the X crossing
Treble X minimum = 0.300
Treble X peak = 0.565, 5 15/16 from center of the X crossing
Upper tone bar minimum = 0.355
Upper tone bar peak 1 = 0.532, 2 15/16 from the X
Upper tone bar peak 2 = 0.530, 8 3/8 from the X
Lower tone bar minimum = 0.310
Lower tone bar peak 1 = 0.460, 2 3/4 from the X
Lower tone bar peak 2 = 0.500, 8 3/8 from the X
The four short braces (generally called fans) are 1/4 wide, with a peak that is about 1/4 tall. The fans are about 1/16 tall where they intersect the X-braces. The tone bars are about 0.110 tall where they intersect the X-braces.
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gutiar Plans from Pilgrims Projects
Guys I have to say this but only because I want to help support this forum and because Hesh forgot to!

if looking for great OM plans give the OLF OM at Stewmac.com a shot. They are only available on line till later this month when the new catalog comes out. Very accurate and not at all over braced. proven designes and the OM is true Martin shape. I hear the SJ and MJ are great plans as well duh This forum get a residual from each set which helps keep this site up and running. I also hear the designer of the plans is a nice guy as well idunno
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