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| Author: | Hesh [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:58 am ] |
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What's your least favorite guitar building operation? Mine is sanding - I hate sanding........ ![[headinwall]](./images/smilies/headbangwalluf8.gif "Mad")  But I will admit that I do like to see the results as the dust cloud clears.So let's hear about the things that we do when building a guitar that you find distasteful, stressful, annoying, tiring, etc? |
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| Author: | Peter Pii [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
Set ups, I spend so much time on chasing buzzes around. Peter |
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| Author: | Marc [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:27 am ] |
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Like Hesh, I don't like sanding. I also don't like installing frets 15 through 19 (classicals). |
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| Author: | douglas ingram [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
...and I have a love-hate relationship with binding. |
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| Author: | Mike Franks [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:29 am ] |
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Sanding the radius and end taper in ebony fretboards. That ebony dust is filthy! 2nd place has to be sanding bone nuts and saddles on the disc sander. The smell puts me right on the edge of barfing! ![[xx(]](./images/smilies/smiley11.gif "Dead") Mike Franks www.mjfranksguitar.com |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
I have to say that chasing buzzes is near the top but it is not always an issue so I will pick rubbing out sprayed finishes as mine. I love polishing and buffing but initial rub out is a bore |
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| Author: | cphanna [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:49 am ] |
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Trimming the overhanging edges of the top and back plates prior to finish sanding the sides. I can't say why. I guess it's an issue of patience and wanting to get along to the next step. |
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| Author: | Andy Birko [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:52 am ] |
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Anything I have to re-do because I screwed it up the first time.
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| Author: | Ken Grunst [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
Hesh wrote: What's your least favorite guitar building operation? My least favorite guitar building operation is carving and shaping the neck. To me, that task is sheer drudgery. Fortunately, both LMI and Stew-Mac have "solutions" available that now spare me that chore. I have four guitars currently underway, and I bought a bolt-on pre-carved neck for each. They're not cheap, but they allow me to spend my time on all the phases of lutherie that I think are a lot more fun. Ken Grunst |
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| Author: | Lars Stahl [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:55 am ] |
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well I havent come to that stage yet, BUT I can say that I hate to see that as soon as you have cleaned the work table, it takes only 5 min, before it´s all messed up again, "hate to clean" !! haha. |
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| Author: | Jim Kirby [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:57 am ] |
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Ken Grunst wrote: Hesh wrote: What's your least favorite guitar building operation? My least favorite guitar building operation is carving and shaping the neck. To me, that task is sheer drudgery. Fortunately, both LMI and Stew-Mac have "solutions" available that now spare me that chore. I have four guitars currently underway, and I bought a bolt-on pre-carved neck for each. They're not cheap, but they allow me to spend my time on all the phases of lutherie that I think are a lot more fun. Ken Grunst What variety is manifest amongst us! Neck carving is my favorite part! Sanding for me - I just never seem to be able to hang in there long enough to get everything - I'm always going back to something after the first wash coat or grain fill says "Now would ya look at that!" |
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| Author: | BruceHerrmann [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
Good post Hesh, here's my list Enjoy 1. Finishing (mmm, love that nitro smell, always improves my attitude  )2. Making, gluing, shaving and voicing bracing 3. Final fitting of the neck Dislike 1. Cutting binding channels, never seem to get it right. Sometimes fight with rosette though less these days than before 2. Cleaning glue excess, Fish glue gets really hard and though I try to remove excess at the time of gluing, there's always some left, a real time consumer. Sanding never really bothered me though I find as years go by I'm more sensitive to the dust, have to wear masks much more. Regarding necks, it's my opinion that building guitars should be enjoyable, if there is a certain part of the process you just don't enjoy and even find yourself dreading, come up with another solution.... like a neck from StewMac etc. To me we need to concentrate on the things we enjoy, we probably do them best anyway. If you don't like carving necks, let somebody do the carving for you and remove one step that's just not giving you any satisfaction. Life is too short. And, so was this past year, happy new year to all. Best Bruce |
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| Author: | Andy Birko [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
BruceHerrmann wrote: Regarding necks, it's my opinion that building guitars should be enjoyable, if there is a certain part of the process you just don't enjoy and even find yourself dreading, come up with another solution.... like a neck from StewMac Or - learn to love it, get excellent at it and charge money to do it for others who still dread it ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up")
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| Author: | npalen [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:18 pm ] |
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Paying the bills. |
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| Author: | David R White [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:19 pm ] |
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Binding. I have still yet to bind a guitar to the level of quality that will satisfy me. |
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| Author: | ChuckB [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
For me, it is sanding, and a very close second is cleaning up all the dust! Chuck |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:45 pm ] |
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I dislike making a new side laminating form. It's tedious, repetitive, and mechanical. |
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| Author: | Chris Paulick [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:39 pm ] |
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Sanding too. |
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| Author: | ChuckH [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:51 pm ] |
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I don't mind sanding at all. It's almost like I go in a trance, and when the sanding is done I wake up. Binding just tears me up. Fighting all those darn purfling strips and trying to fit in the binding with glue all over your fingers. Ripping off binding tape, and right where I want to stick it, there is a big blob of glue I have to clean while holding everything in place. Fighting the clock just gets me all worked up. I gotta have three beers and nine cigarettes when I'm finished. 
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| Author: | Ken C [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:26 pm ] |
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Pore filling! |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:56 pm ] |
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I'm not to sure if I have one really. I like most parts of building. Maybe the least favorite is waiting long enough to level sand the finish. Waiting for glue to dry so I can move one to the next step. Oh and the least favorite is having to shut the shop lights off at 1am when I'm on a roll. |
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| Author: | Kovacik Guitars [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:14 pm ] |
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Scraping binding flush and finish sanding (not finishing itself but sanding between coats) are the most tedious tasks for me. What do I like....neck carving and fitting, set up, and I particularly enjoy the process of concepting a project. Steve Kovacik Kovacik Guitars and Fretted Instrument Repair |
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| Author: | tubeman426 [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
My least favorite is making jigs or tools. I just want to build guitars !!! Unfortunately buying tools and jigs isnt in the bugget most of the time. Then again if I had more time, building jigs and tools wouldnt be so bad 
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| Author: | George Thomas [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
Least favorite is binding - mainly the cutting of the binding and purfling channels because of the trepidation involved. I still have not sorted out why sometimes the channel it is too deep and sometimes not deep enough on the same guitar. Then there is the "I forgot to check" part whether it is the tightness of the depth setting adjustment or the tightness of the nut holding the cutter in the laminate trimmer. On the other side, carving necks takes me way back to art school days and carving sculpture. I do like french polishing, even the pore filling with pumice. Strange I know but hey, it is close to the time when I can string up the new classical guitar and see what the latest experiment in bracing, wood combination, top graduation or back and side thickness produces. |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Least Favorite Guitar Building Operation...... |
Sanding and scraping, I have a bad right shoulder and it doesn't like to do these things. All of the other building and finishing tasks are sometimes frustrating but usually enjoyable. Fred Tellier |
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