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| Author: | mark m [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Titebond III |
So has anyone used this yet? I know its dark brown but how useful would it be? |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
It is good for gluing your lawn furniture, as it is water-proof. But it doens't dry hard and has serious creep issues. Original Titebond is a whole lot better for guitar making. Titebond III is normally light colored. You must have seen the version for dark woods. |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
It's good for cutting boards. Attachment: P1010029 (Large).JPG
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
I read somewhere that it's not recommended for instrument use because it's quite flexible. I only use it for non-structural applications like binding and rosettes. |
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| Author: | Rob Lak [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
Please define "Hard". How hard must a glue be? I used some on a fence this summer and i missed a drip. Had to use a chisel to get it off. How hard should it be? Is there a standards association that keeps track of glue properties? Hardness, creep, heat resistance, flexibility, water resistance etc.? Seems like there should be one somewhere.... |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
Consensus is HHG, LMI white or Titebond original for joining, braces, gluing plates and bridges and so on. The other aliphatic glues have too much cold creep. |
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| Author: | matt jacobs [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
Don't bother with it. I've used it on a couple of guitars, and recently had a bridge pull off. You could see the glue stretch. |
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| Author: | Mark Groza [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
matt jacobs wrote: Don't bother with it. I've used it on a couple of guitars, and recently had a bridge pull off. You could see the glue stretch. Is there a shelf life on titebond? Mabey your bridge was glued on with old glue past the shelf life.I've never had it fail.I even used it for laminated floor joists on a loft spaning 24 ft. without failure.And those joists are holding tons of milled lumber right now! |
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| Author: | Peter Pii [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
Lately I've been using fish glue. Titebond 111 is not recommended |
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| Author: | matt jacobs [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
Mark G, I don't know what the shelf life of TB III is. I think I bought the bottle just for that instrument so it shouldn't have been that old. The bridge lifted after I lost air conditioning for a week,in Houston, in July  . but that was the only instrument effected. Knowing what I know now, there is really no benefit for using it on a guitar.
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| Author: | Steve Kinnaird [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
I've used TBIII gluing purfling to bindings. It was an experiment to see if the waterproof thing would help as the bindings were spritzed and then bent. In this application, seems that a little creep might come in handy. (By the way, it worked fine.) Matt, thanks for the heads-up about your bridge. You should have brought all your guitars up here in July!  Steve |
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| Author: | IanM [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Titebond III |
Mark Groza wrote: Is there a shelf life on titebond? Mabey your bridge was glued on with old glue past the shelf life.I've never had it fail. Titebond give all their PVA glues a one year shelf life, whilst acknowledging that it keeps for longer than that in practice. I found an old , nearly empty, bottle of 'original' Titebond kicking around recently. It had clearly degraded and had a distinct vinegary acetic acid smell to it. Mark Groza wrote: I even used it for laminated floor joists on a loft spaning 24 ft. without failure.And those joists are holding tons of milled lumber right now! Around here that definitely wouldn't get past the building inspectors. I'd use a genuinely waterproof glue like a urea/formaldehyde glue for structural applications like that. |
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