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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:30 pm 
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Ouch! Best wishes for a complete recovery. And stay away from that stuff. No offense, but you are lucky that A)it wasn't much worse, and B) you found an experienced medical pro to help you deal with it. Don't tempt fate. Take your friends up on their offer to help, and get the build over with and move on from the epoxy. And thank you for taking the time to make us aware of this danger. No epoxy for me.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:00 pm 
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Thanks for the warning. I read this just as I was headed out to the shop to porefill a cocobolo guitar with Zpoxy. I think a haz-mat suit might be in order.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:04 pm 
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I have found that one can become sensitized to CA as well. I have been. I used to use it to glue on and or repair nails for playing, eventually, my hands started breaking out, then, other places. Now, if I get it on my fingers, like on the finger tips or somewhere tough, it does not seem to bother me, but if I touch my neck with the finger that has some on it to my neck or another "tender" place :oops: , I'll break out there. I have also noticed that it stirs up my asthma if I breathe the fumes. Pretty irritating, though I have not had anything as severe as Kim.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:53 pm 
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Oh My gosh, Kim! wow7-eyes
I kept waiting for the story to wind up something like this--that those pesky little bugs got stuck in your final coat of z-poxy, or some such. (You would probably have preferred that ending, I'm sure.) And not that you went through such an ordeal. Wow...
The warning is appreciated, as is your returning health.
Hang in there, and thanks for posting.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:35 am 
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Don't they use CA for closing wounds in Vietnam or something and they actually have medical grade CA for this purpose... ?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:53 am 
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I'm quite familiar with allergic reactions. I was very sensitive because of a reaction to mercury amalgams that sent my immune system into a fit. The itching can be phenominal! Passing out because of a anaphalactic reaction can not be explained in its intensity!

One thing that can help is getting a good sweat on! One of the most effective ways for the body to deal with reactants is perspiration.

Careful with that prednisone! Both my Grandfather and Aunt were on that for some time due to lupus. It causes intense rages and is really not very good for you.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:36 am 
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I see you have found my website and warnings about working with epoxy. I hope you don't mind I've copied them to

http://www.fram.nl/workshop/controlled_ ... llergy.htm

If you object, please send me an e-mail through www.fram.nl and I will remove it.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:14 pm 
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Fretwank Guitars wrote:
Don't they use CA for closing wounds in Vietnam or something and they actually have medical grade CA for this purpose... ?



'Probably yes' and 'definitely yes'...I use the regular stuff all the time if I nick myself on something and I'm going to bleed all over my work. Hurts something awful when it cures (and if it's flowing a bit too fast to wait then it REALLY hurts if you use accelerator!) but it works like a charm!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:22 pm 
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Fretwank Guitars wrote:
Don't they use CA for closing wounds in Vietnam or something and they actually have medical grade CA for this purpose... ?


They use it in the US as well, and make a medical grade....I think its purplish colored or something like that. They sometimes use it in lieu of stitches.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:49 pm 
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Kim my friend, that is horrible. I'm so sorry this has happened to you. Best wishes and God speed in your recovery.

Bump as well for something very serious.

I've always loved this line from the movie Jurassic Park, it applies to many of our "conveniences" in life.

Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:20 am 
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Kim, I hope you recover fast. Consider this, you may if possible want to leave your residence till you are cured. I am thinking that it is possible that some dust could perhaps have come into your house and you are constantly exposed to it.

I too live in an old house that is waiting for the bulldozer so I got a kick out of your story. For me mostly it's jumping in the shower only to have no water when I have to go out to the well house and run a kerosene heater to defrost the ice clogged pipes :lol:

Good luck and keep us informed.


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