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Author:  quips [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Pneumatic Drum Sander / Bladder Sander

Hello,

I am searching for a hand-held pneumatic drum sander / bladder sander; I am aware that grizzly inc sells some... however, they do NOT ship to Canada. I'm guessing another company is marketing the same products in Canada but not that specific sander!

Is http://www.sand-rite.com/ my only option? Anyone know of some manufacturers that will ship to Canada?

Thanks,
David

Author:  douglas ingram [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:20 pm ]
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I'm pretty sure that Lee Valley has something.

Author:  Sheldon Dingwall [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:14 pm ]
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Busy Bee is the "other" company.

You're going to need sleeves, so you might as well pony up and get the sand-rite. The canvas jacket wears out eventually so it's nice to be able to get the spare parts. Their sleeves are great quality, cheep and last a long time.

You can find an inline air drill a lot cheaper than Sand-rite. I bought my last one from Harbor Freight.

The Lee Valley units are nice if you're going to mount them on a spindle, but they don't have a handle so are a little awkward to use in a hand drill.

Author:  Darrin D Oilar [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:50 am ]
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Doug is correct, Lee Valley does have several options. I saw it in their catalog (catalogue for the Canadian speakers) :D just the other day.

Darrin

Author:  npalen [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pneumatic Drum Sander / Bladder Sander

I use and recommend a 3/8" VSR drill for running the "rolling pin" sander.
Not sure why a person would want to use an air drill.

Author:  Sheldon Dingwall [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:01 am ]
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npalen wrote:
Not sure why a person would want to use an air drill.


It's really nice to be able to have a firm grip on the tool and be able to control the RPM with your little finger.

We use them on the edges of electric bodies blending the edges to the faces so the small size is another reason.

Author:  Alain Desforges [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:09 am ]
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David, Grizly will ship to Canada but the order has to exceed 200 dollars. I was going to order one just the other day. These sanders are fantastic as I've had the chance to try one first hand.

I've tried a hand made version using a rolling pin and although it does do the job, it just isn't as stable and user friendly as the real deal.

I'm actually contemplating organizing a group buy for Canadians. If I get one and you do as well, we'll be able to have them shipped here.

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:14 pm ]
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Looking at the Sand-Rite page, one is confronted w/ numerous choices, size-wise. Which size drum do you guys recommend?

Thanks,

Steve

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:05 pm ]
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Steve Kinnaird wrote:
Looking at the Sand-Rite page, one is confronted w/ numerous choices, size-wise. Which size drum do you guys recommend?

Thanks,

Steve


Steve the way I would look at it is if you are just going to have one the buy one that is just smaller than the smallest radius on any body you will build. for example if the smallest cutaway return radius you build is 1 3/4 approx radius the go with a 1 1/2" x 6.

If you don't build cutaways and never plan to and a 2" will fit into your tightest curve on a neck or body then get a 2" as it will do a bit more work in less time.

I use a 1 1/2" x 6 amd love it.

Author:  Pat Hawley [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:40 pm ]
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Alain,
Let me know if you decide to go ahead with a group buy. I could be interested in that.
Thanks,
Pat

Author:  David R White [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pneumatic Drum Sander / Bladder Sander

David, I think this is what you want from industrialabrasives.com:

https://commerce.riverweb.com:8003/01601.html

It's 8" long, filled with air, one side chucks into a hand held drill, the other side has a handle so you can support it from both sides as you sand. Great for sanding the waist, and with 36 paper you can hog off a lot of material for neck shaping etc. It's a well made unit and they do ship to Canada.

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:52 pm ]
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MichaelP wrote:
Steve Kinnaird wrote:
Looking at the Sand-Rite page, one is confronted w/ numerous choices, size-wise. Which size drum do you guys recommend?

Thanks,

Steve


Steve the way I would look at it is if you are just going to have one the buy one that is just smaller than the smallest radius on any body you will build. for example if the smallest cutaway return radius you build is 1 3/4 approx radius the go with a 1 1/2" x 6.

If you don't build cutaways and never plan to and a 2" will fit into your tightest curve on a neck or body then get a 2" as it will do a bit more work in less time.

I use a 1 1/2" x 6 amd love it.


Hey, thanks Michael.
Sage advice.
Also good to get your recommendation!

Steve

Author:  Rod True [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:31 pm ]
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David, your other option is to just go down to Grizzly in Bellingham and get one. They are only open week days just so you know. I've been there many times so if you go, make sure and drink a lot of water before you go, because you just can't stop drooling laughing6-hehe .

That one from Industrial abrasives is a better price though. I'm quite sure Lee Valley does NOT offer one like the Grizzly sander. Yes, they have bladder sanders, but not with a handle on one end.

Author:  Alain Desforges [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pneumatic Drum Sander / Bladder Sander

Dave (White), that link isn't opening but I'll Google it when I'm done here. How are things dude?

Pat, I'm definitely thinking about it. David wants one and now you do to. We 're three already. I could deliver yours by hand, actually, as I'm in Ottawa as well.

I really want/need one of these and Rod's right, Lee Valley has nothing like it. They do have pneumatics that you can use on a press-drill, but none with the handle, and that's what makes all the difference in the world.

Author:  Rod True [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:16 am ]
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Oh Al, I want one of the Grizzly one's too. And honestly, I could go down to Grizzly and just pick them up and bring them over the border and mail them out to you guys. Might not be till next week some time though.

Soooo...... Which of you Canucks are serious about getting one from Grizzly?

Author:  Barry Daniels [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pneumatic Drum Sander / Bladder Sander

I have the larger Grizzly pneumatic drum sander and it is a quality tool. I use sanding sleeves from 120 up to 320 grit which leaves a finish ready surface.

Author:  Pat Hawley [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pneumatic Drum Sander / Bladder Sander

Rod,
I'd be serious about getting the 71/2" version. Now we seem to have two approaches to getting them - Alain doing a group buy or you going to get them and mailing them from BC (thanks for that offer). It doesn't make much difference to me since I'm not one of the ones who will be doing most of the work. Are there preferences? I guess there's four of us potentially interested - should we start organizing off line from the forum?
Pat

Author:  Rod True [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:45 pm ]
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See, the thing that might make me going down to get them less expensive is the brokerage issue and the actual shipping costs as I would be shipping from BC to Ont, not "international" from Washington or maybe Missouri or Pennsylvania but who knows.

if you guys want to take this offline you can email me at rodtrue(at)shaw.ca

Author:  David R White [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:27 pm ]
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Quote:
Dave (White), that link isn't opening but I'll Google it when I'm done here. How are things dude?


Hey Alain...doing fine. That company's website is down a lot, but they do answer their phone, ship quickly, and it's a good product at a fair price.

Author:  quips [ Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pneumatic Drum Sander / Bladder Sander

I called Grizzly and they told me they would not ship to Canada due to an agreement with Busy Bee Tools. However, I sent an e-mail to busy bee tools about that particular sander and they responded with this:

"Valued Customer

We should have this item in within the next 6 months. Sorry for the delay but it is part of a new line for us that we are bringing in.

We appreciate your interest in our products.


Thank You
Busy Bee Tools - Order Desk"

Author:  quips [ Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pneumatic Drum Sander / Bladder Sander

Wow! Thanks for the heads up, David White. I'll definitely have a look into them!

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