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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:55 pm 
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Well it's looking more and more feasible to make at least a small run of these happen. I've sourced out some components which in addition to fitting a more reasonable budget, may actually offer some improvement over the original design. We met with our machinist last week, and I'm close to putting in an initial order on parts to begin on a prototype and put it through some rigorous testing. If this newer version lives up to my intentions and expectations with the new refinements, I may even retire the old one to the lutherie museum.

Still a ways to go on testing out new parts and sourcing a few final details, but if all goes according to plan it looks like we should be able to make this happen.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:05 pm 
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David Collins wrote:
Well it's looking more and more feasible to make at least a small run of these happen. I've sourced out some components which in addition to fitting a more reasonable budget, may actually offer some improvement over the original design. We met with our machinist last week, and I'm close to putting in an initial order on parts to begin on a prototype and put it through some rigorous testing. If this newer version lives up to my intentions and expectations with the new refinements, I may even retire the old one to the lutherie museum.

Still a ways to go on testing out new parts and sourcing a few final details, but if all goes according to plan it looks like we should be able to make this happen.




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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:28 am 
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"Let's not degenerate this forum into "my way is the only way and you suck""

Hi Sam,
I don't think any of us who posted alternatives to David's jig voiced that sentiment. In fact I think we admitted his was a more refined and upscale "mill". The reason I participate in this and other fora is to share knowledge and methods and for the camaraderie with people of similar interests. As a "show and tell" thread I was happy to see people "show and tell" other ways to accomplish the task. I certainly meant no offence.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:36 am 
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Clay none taken and we welcome lively debate (on-topic of course) and folks sharing alternative methods.

By the way the word "offense" is spelled "offense" and not "offence" as you spelled it. :D Please note smiley face - no offense or offence either intended! ;)

Something else that I wanted to add. There is an entire world of Lutherie out here that is largely NOT represented on the forums. These folks are names that you have heard, professional Luthiers with skin in the game who don't and often won't participate in Internet forums. Not going to get into the reasons but I'm bringing this up because there is a market for high-end, professional Lutherie tools and jigs that most hobbyists would and will never be able to justify cost vs. benefit wise.

To these folks who have perhaps struggled for years lacking a great tool or method to do difficult tasks easily and accurately when something comes along that will make them money, reduce liability (reduce or eliminate mistakes while increasing accuracy), and solves real-life customer problems they are all over it.

We showed the mill here because it's interesting and very much Lutherie related. We make no claim that our way is the best way, etc. Instead we count on the pros to be capable of identifying a problem solving solution. After all they have the same concerns that we do, doing the best possible work, reducing liability to as close to zero as possible, and never, never doing any harm.

When you guys show your solutions it's a good thing and it facilitates everyone, pro and hobbyist alike having an opportunity to choose door number one, door number two, and door number three in accordance with their needs and level of commitment meaning are they a working Luthier with skin in the game of not.

It's all good to me. And door number three had Officer O'Malley of the FBI behind it... :lol:

By the way I had the jig that Hans has and used it lots of times. It works well but there are some things that I can do with Dave's jig that the commercial jig can't do and the accuracy is higher with Dave's. So I gave my jig away to a friend down south who is doing lots of repairs.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:20 am 
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"By the way the word "offense" is spelled "offense" and not "offence" as you spelled it. :D Please note smiley face - no offense or offence either intended! ;) "

Hi Hesh,
On the other side of the pond some might disagree with you. Same meaning, just a slightly different colour. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:44 am 
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Yeah, you're right Clay even though it's a "grey" area, that.... :D

I always chalk it up to two peoples separated by a common language.... :? :D


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:03 am 
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David, I love that jig. I always wanted to make something like that.

It reminds of the jig Frank Ford made http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier ... ill01.html

Great work!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:56 pm 
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Clay, none taken. I just piped up in the tread to try to cool off some of the heat. I think sometimes you get so used to the way you do things it is hard to not take things personally. Then it can become a contest of who is the "realest" luthier because I only use hand tools or I only use wood I cut down my self etc...


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